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| roturn |
Posted on 17-11-2011 15:49
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Thanks for your fast response. That`S what I have done now. Depending on my motivation I might do a stage excel table by myself and then top 10-20 for the overall.
Hopefully this is just a Paris Nice problem and won`t happen in other races as well.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 17-11-2011 16:12
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I had the same problem with a few of the stages in Paris-Nice too, so I think there's something wrong with those stages. Hasn't happened again to me. 
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-11-2011 17:31
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I hope so.
For this stage I made the complete stage result on my own and the top 20 overall. But definitely won`t do it for the other stagesas it takes too much time.
Paris - Nice Stage 5
Saint-Symphorien-sur-Coise - Vernoux-en-Vivarais
Maybe the hardest stage in this race. A hard climb on the first third, some easier climbs in the middle and a pretty hard one in the end again. This one will definitely split the group and just the strongest will be able to fight for the win. Can Martens challenge the best to stay in the leader jersey? How bad is Sanchez` injury? And what favourites are in a good form?
Experts guessed Kreuziger and Gesink being the strongest with LL Sanchez, Ricco, Anton, Taaramae and Cataldo following.
A group of 8 is allowed to create a small gap. All of them are no danger and are already 10+ minutes down.
But Garmin is working hard in the peloton to make the race as difficult as possible to challenge Martens. It`s mainly Duggan and Pate, who are doing a high pace on the long mountain in the beginning.
After the descent some riders already lost contact, so does Murphy, who has to fight hard today. Therefore Farrar in the green jersey is still in a good position and supports his two team mates now.
On the medium hills in the middle part Pozzato is attacking and joins the break, which is just a bit ahead of the peloton.
After catching the break just 3 riders are in front of the peloton. Samu Sanchez and C.A. Sörensen, who are both +3min back and Pozzato (+1min)
are leading the race now and get a maximum of 2min.
The peloton starts the big climb in the end. Next to Garmin with Peterson, Butler and Stetina also Rabobank and Astana are doing the pace now. Rabobank just wants to control, but Astana is doing a high pace now and also Garmin has other plans.
First attack. It`s Tony Martin, who has traditionally a great spring. This obviously hasn`t changed after his team change. Behind him HTC`s Ricco and Cataldo are trying to follow.
This action had a big influence on the whole peloton. Lots of riders are falling back and the biggest surprise is here. Martens at the very end of the group can`t follow the high pace. At least he got some support by his team mate Niermann. Other team mates such as Rogers, Ten Dam and Tankink obviously can ride on their own as Martens just seems totally exhausted.
Later on the hill it`s Kreuziger, who is having a small gap. Behind him Taaramae and Masciarelli prove to be the most active by trying to jump to him.
With 1km to the top the Czech is still having a small gap to a 13 rider group including Sanchez. Biggest surprise here the abstinence of Gesink, who also felt back in a later group. But also Spilak, Uran, Casar or Hermans weren`t able to follow.
So it`s Roman Kreuziger celebrating a great win and taking the lead today. Nobody was able to close the gap to him.
In the sprint for the 2nd Tony Martin shows unknown sprint qualities and leads the 13 riders 46s later over the line. Sanchez, who didn`t had the best legs today sprints on the 3rd and grabs important bonus seconds. Nice to see him not injured.
For the French spectators it`s nice to see Le Mevel, Gautier and a bit surprising Joly in this group. And also Cofidis rider Taaramae looks very strong.
As the next group around Gesink already lost more than 3min today, these 14 riders might fight for the podium spots.
Martens lost even 9 minutes on the last 10km. He really met Mr. Hammer today. Niermann once again proved to be one of the greatest helpers in the peloton and never left his side.
Another sign of how hard the stage was today is the disqualification of 17 riders today including Garmin`s Murphy, who finished as last and 17min over the time limit. Other big names are Hutarovych and Bonnet, who will miss Kreuziger now. Also Lancaster, Rasmussen, Casper, Hoste or Galimzyanov won`t continue.
Result
| 1 | Roman Kreuziger | FDJ | 5h08'31'' | | 2 | Tony Martin | Liquigas - Cannondale | 46'' | | 3 | Luis León Sánchez | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 4 | Rein Taaramäe | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | s.t. | | 5 | Francesco Masciarelli | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 6 | Riccardo Riccò | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 7 | Eduard Vorganov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 8 | Cyril Gautier | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 9 | Dario Cataldo | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 10 | Pablo Lastras | Movistar Team | s.t. |
Overall
| 1 | Roman Kreuziger | FDJ | 23h38'46'' | | 2 | Tony Martin | Liquigas - Cannondale | 48'' | | 3 | Eduard Vorganov | Katusha Team | 50'' | | 4 | Luis León Sánchez | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 5 | Rein Taaramäe | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | 52'' | | 6 | Riccardo Riccò | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 7 | Dario Cataldo | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 8 | Cyril Gautier | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 9 | Francesco Masciarelli | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 10 | Christophe Le Mével | Movistar Team | s.t. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 17-11-2011 17:35
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Nice stage for Sanchez and only 50s behind on GC, it's looking good |
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| Tuco the Ugly |
Posted on 17-11-2011 17:37
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It takes a loooong time to do that, so much appreciated.
Good racing by LLS, still very much in there for a podium spot, but it's quite congested.
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| YvesStevens |
Posted on 17-11-2011 17:42
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That won't be hard I think if you want LLS at the podium |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 17-11-2011 17:45
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Well done with the manually exported results! And even more well with LLS's 3rd! Nice stage btw, didn't expected such a tough stage at P-N
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| dienblad |
Posted on 17-11-2011 17:50
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Well done, podium is in reach!
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| MitchNL |
Posted on 17-11-2011 18:38
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roturn wrote:
@MitchNL
He sure is a big threat now. He shouldn`t lose too much time in the 27km time trial. Especially not as it is a bit hilly. Biggest hope now is that he will lose contact on the harder stages, that have some mountain ratio. Not sure how the stages are set in the DB and doesn`T want to know. More fun to see it during the 3D race. At least one is rated as mountain stage, although I expect the next one to be harder.
Thanks for the stats! Seems like you should repeatedly say that other riders are a threat, worked in the disadvantage of Martens. I mean, Kreuziger and Martin could make it difficult for you, but when LLS is fit, I'm sure your mastertactics + your new skill explained above will work...
Good luck in the Tirreno, hope that Fuglsang can impress there!
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| baia |
Posted on 17-11-2011 19:10
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Thanks for the hard work here with complete results...
Good stage from Sánchez....if the race goes as planned,Sánchez will get 3rd....good luck.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-11-2011 09:06
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Nice podium with LLS, he looks good for the overall podium fight with Martin, as Kreuziger has a decent gap, good luck
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Posted on 18-11-2011 11:46
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Great stage, yes sir!
Martens has fallen, now it can see if LLS finish on the podium. I am sure of their possibilities. Should be monitored Roman wheel, which looks very strong.
Good luck mate. Go Garmin!
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-11-2011 11:55
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Great result! Kreuziger is always very strong in the early season, so it's normal that he's hard to beat. Sanchez looks good for a podium overall.
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-11-2011 12:31
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Thanks all for the comments.
Due to this great stage with lots of time gaps I thought it`s worth the work to make the full stage excel file.
Especially as the last 10km brought such huge time gaps. Martens 9min in the final...
Kreuziger is not just strong in the early season, he is next to Gesink also the by far strongest rider in the field as it is the 4th season.
Normally Martin should be the strongest in the time trial followed by LL Sanchez. Then guys like Kreuziger, Van Garderen and Taaramae. So it might be a great fight for the podium spots. And also the other riders in the first group can still distance the others on the hilly stages.
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-11-2011 13:23
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Tirreno - Adriatico Stage 2
Carrara - Arezzo
Although the stage looks pretty flat it`s rated as a hilly one. Probably due to the really hard climbs and also the small not rated climbs in the end will be harder than they look. Nevertheless sprinters like Haussler, Bole or Gavazzi should normally pass these hills to decide the sprint.
A large group including Garmin`s Bobridge, Suisse champ Elmiger and Dutch champ Terpstra is allowed to break away. Also some strong sprinters in Ventoso and former Garmin rider Rojas are here. Obviously their teams don`t expect a sprint finish here and try it with a break.
Some kilometers later the former World Champion Fabian Wegmann attacks. He is 2min ahead of the peloton but still 6min behind the group. Very tough solo ride for the German. Maybe he should have waited for the hills to attack as this is surely his bigger strength.
Flecha and Langeveld are the next with attacks after the first mountain sprint. Both of them are decent puncheurs and most important no big GC threats.
This causes some big names falling back. Most surprising probably one of today`s favourite in Giovanni Visconti. But also Quickstep`s Chavanel is surely not expected to fall back that early.
Lots of attacks now. Gilbert is starting the action with Vaugrenard, Gasparotto and Ginanni following. More riders try it, while Fuglsang is having some problems to follow.
And another big rider falls back. One of the top favourites in Van Den Broeck can`t follow, while many weaker riders are still here.
Also due to Kreder`s and Martin`s work plus some other teams all were brought back as also the breakaway.
But Gilbert is trying it again. This time also Sagan, Wiggins, Florencio and Ginnani are trying to follow but again they are brought back.
In the sprint Modolo proved to be the strongest today. He beats the two Lampre riders Bole and Gavazzi and Haussler as 4th. Lampre really did very well today with 2 more in the top 10 as they controlled the peloton instead of following all the attacks.
And Fuglsang as 8th proved to be in a good form and that it was probably the best decision to stay in the peloton instead of trying to attack with such a fast pace.
Bad news for two other riders from us. Kreder crashed in the final 5km and some other riders weren`t able to avoid crashing into him. One of them was Daniel Martin, but also Denis Menchov and race leader Herrada and Rollin crashed.
So all of them will lose 2-3 minutes today but hopefully stay without an injury. Visconti even lost 4'29 today and Van Den Broeck totally collapsed and lost 5'32 today.
Result
| 1 | Sacha Modolo | Colnago - CSF Inox | 4h44'17 | | 2 | Grega Bole | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 3 | Francesco Gavazzi | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 4 | Heinrich Haussler | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 5 | Leonardo Bertagnolli | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 6 | Francesco Ginanni | Androni Giocattoli | s.t. | | 7 | Damiano Cunego | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 8 | Jakob Fuglsang | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 9 | Enrico Gasparotto | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 10 | Xavier Florencio | Geox - TMC | s.t. |
Overall
| 1 | Cadel Evans | Movistar Team | 5h04'54 | | 2 | Francisco Pérez | Movistar Team | + 1 | | 3 | Francesco Gavazzi | Lampre - ISD | + 5 | | 4 | Grega Bole | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 5 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 6 | Kurt-Asle Arvesen | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 7 | Morris Possoni | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 8 | Juan Antonio Flecha | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 9 | Bradley Wiggins | Sky ProCycling | + 6 | | 10 | Leonardo Bertagnolli | Lampre - ISD | + 9 |
P:| 1 | Sacha Modolo | Colnago - CSF Inox | 12 | | 2 | Grega Bole | Lampre - ISD | 10 | | 3 | Francesco Gavazzi | Lampre - ISD | 8 |
KoM:| 1 | Martin Elmiger | AG2R La Mondiale | 10 | | 2 | Luca Paolini | Katusha Team | 3 | | 3 | Fabian Wegmann | Leopard Trek | 3 |
U25:| 1 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky ProCycling | 5h04'59 (1) | | 2 | Diego Ulissi | Lampre - ISD | + 9 (2) | | 3 | Robert Kiserlovski | Saxo Bank SunGard | + 13 (3) |
Team:| 1 | Sky ProCycling | 14h33'33 (1) | | 2 | Lampre - ISD | + 4 (2) | | 3 | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 8 (3) |
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| vangerner |
Posted on 18-11-2011 14:47
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Good 4th with Haussler, Lampre failed with 4 riders in top 10 
Really bad Kreder crashed, hopefully he is okay! |
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| baia |
Posted on 18-11-2011 15:32
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vangerner wrote:
Good 4th with Haussler, Lampre failed with 4 riders in top 10
Really bad Kreder crashed, hopefully he is okay!
+1
Still all open...is Kreder ok?
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-11-2011 16:17
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Not sure about Kreder and Dan Martin. Will probably notice it the next Tirreno stage. Just sucks quite a lot as they are my only real helpers and both crashed...
Hope at least one is not injured.
Haussler`s 4th was okay but actually I hoped for a stage win there but the others were surely stronger.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 18-11-2011 16:25
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Pity about the crash, but still got two men in the top ten |
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| MitchNL |
Posted on 19-11-2011 09:49
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Quite a shock with Dan Martin's tumble, but LLS had the same in P-N, look where he is now. Hope that Dan Martin can do the same as LLS, if not, then there's only Fuglsang left. |
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