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Race routes 2012
FreitasPCM
The first week has everything to be interesting...
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Svam
The pictogramms are wrong. Here is my correction :

S 30: Liege (Prologue)
D 01: Liege -> Seraing (uphill finish)
L 02: Visé -> Tournai
M 03: Orchies -> Boulogne-sur-Mer (uphill finish in Porte Gayole)
M 04: Abbeville -> Rouen
J 05: Rouen -> St-Quentin
V 06: Epernay -> Metz

S 07: Tomblaine -> La Planche des Belles Filles
D 08: Belfort -> Porrentruy (with four 2Cs including la Croix)

L 09: Arc-et-Senans -> Besançon CLM 38km
M 10: Repos à Mâcon
M 11: Mâcon -> Bellegarde-sur-Valserine (via le Grand Colombier, Biche ?)
J 12: Albertville -> La Toussuire (via Madeleine, Croix de Fer, Mollard ??)
V 13: St-Jean de Maurienne -> Annonay (for breakaways)
S 14: St-Paul-Trois-Châteaux -> Cap-d'Agde
D 15: Limoux -> Foix (Pailhères ? Port ou Lers ?? Péguère ??)
L 16: Samatan -> Pau
M 17: Repos Ă  Pau
M 18: Pau -> Luchon (Aubisque, Tourmalet, Aspin, Peyresourde)
J 19: Luchon -> Peyragudes

V 20: Blagnac -> Brive (hilly in the last part)
S 21: Bonneval -> Chartres CLM 52km
D 22: Rambouillet -> Paris


I can certify that Martin hasn't any chance. They are less high mountain stages but in 2011, only two of them were really used and Pyrenees not. If climbers want it, they can make a dramatic race. Shock
 
rorzcp
I think contador will prevail because he will be able to make the most of the few mountain stages and then beat evans in the TT.

 
issoisso
The question is: The 38km TT. Is it Individual or Team?

I strongly hope it's individual
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Crommy
issoisso wrote:
The question is: The 38km TT. Is it Individual or Team?

I strongly hope it's individual


Supposedly it's individual: http://webcache.g...cours.html
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SportingNonsense
issoisso wrote:
The question is: The 38km TT. Is it Individual or Team?

I strongly hope it's individual


10 days in, surely that would be too late to have a TTT?
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Ragerod
It's an ITT.

4 mountain stages and almost 100km of ITT. This must be Wiggins' best chance and the Schlecks may as well concentrate on the Giro.
 
lagetcher
It should be a hilly/technical TT too.

Good they remembered to put some decent ITT kms in this year, just a shame they forgot the mountains. Oh well, for the more climbing orientated GC riders, it will be interesting to watch the desperation to attack rather than the usual waiting game.

Chris Froome anyone?
 
issoisso
Ragerod wrote:
and the Schlecks may as well concentrate on the Giro.


No chance they do that
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Ragerod
The Schlecks won't but they don't stand a chance next year with a TT heavy route and it's about time Andy at least winning a different race.
 
ember
If it wasn't for Radioshack having Bruyneel as director, Radioshack could have given us a really interesting race in the few mountains there are next year. But Bruyneel isn't known for agressive racing, so I strongly doubt they will see the opportunities, and instead complain about the lack of big mountains at the end of the stages. Seriously though, if they do that, they won't have a man on the podium next year, which is great.

Sky with Froome and especially Wiggins must fancy this one, a great opportunity of getting a podium for them. Though, Contador must be the big favourite. What he showed in Italy this year was just amazing, compared to the rest of the bunch.
 
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mgcastro
This is not official isn't it?

If this is the definite route then it looks like Bradley, Alberto and Cadel (Tony Martin??) have the best shot with all the ITT km's involved.
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Ragerod
mgcastro wrote:
This is not official isn't it?

If this is the definite route then it looks like Bradley, Alberto and Cadel (Tony Martin??) have the best shot with all the ITT km's involved.


It's not been officially announced but it is the official route. There are no profiles yet but it was accidentally uploaded onto the Tour's official website.

http://www.cyclin...e-revealed
 
pcm2009fan
Contador's got his name written all over this if he is allowed to race. We'll find out soon enough.
 
felix_29
The route isn´t good for climbers, but i bet all my money that at least Andy (and maybe even Frank) Schleck will loose far less time per ITT-km than he did this year. A podium is definatly possible when he attacks in the mountains (even Bryneel should see that).
I still hope that Contador will be banned, the top-favourite is Evans although my prediction is that he won´t make the double.
 
Ragerod
lagetcher wrote:
It should be a hilly/technical TT too.

Good they remembered to put some decent ITT kms in this year, just a shame they forgot the mountains. Oh well, for the more climbing orientated GC riders, it will be interesting to watch the desperation to attack rather than the usual waiting game.

Chris Froome anyone?


The rumour a week ago was that it would be hilly/technical.

I'd be surprised if Froome goes to the TDF. He's already mentioned he will lead Sky at the Vuelta and Brailsford will probably prefer to have Froome fresh for the Olympics. It may give him an advantage in the ITT and he will probably be required to pull on the front for 150km in the road race.
 
lagetcher
Ragerod wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
It should be a hilly/technical TT too.

Good they remembered to put some decent ITT kms in this year, just a shame they forgot the mountains. Oh well, for the more climbing orientated GC riders, it will be interesting to watch the desperation to attack rather than the usual waiting game.

Chris Froome anyone?


The rumour a week ago was that it would be hilly/technical.

I'd be surprised if Froome goes to the TDF. He's already mentioned he will lead Sky at the Vuelta and Brailsford will probably prefer to have Froome fresh for the Olympics. It may give him an advantage in the ITT and he will probably be required to pull on the front for 150km in the road race.


I must have missed his announcement that he'd ride the Vuelta next year, but I wouldn't have expected him to ride the Tour anyway. This would probably be a brilliant course for him going on his Vuelta showing though, like it is for Wiggins, except Froome appears to be potentially a better stage racer.
 
kumazan
So that's 96.1 km of ITT right? It's time for my first ever use of a banana in this forum:

Banana

I hope the Tour de France won't have the insanely low amount of ITT kms of the last years never, ever again.
 
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jph27
Ok, I'm going to map the routes on Map My Ride to get a rough idea, and then we'll see just how easy or difficult they are. Personally, I don't think those flat stages are as Flat as they claim. Especcially those ones between Mountains.
 
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