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PCM.daily's 2010 DB update?
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| rapace85 |
Posted on 04-06-2010 15:30
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CrueTrue, I saw that the only new teams in the uploaded db will be ISD Continental and Scott. And what about to add some national teams from southern american countries who have some interesting riders whitout contract (like Henao, Laverde, Peña or Botero for Colombia, or the Richezes for Argentina, ar again a Cuban or Venuezelan team) to participate to races lake San Luis, Gila and Chihuahua? This actually happens in reality 
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-06-2010 15:41
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You could re-phrase and ask why we haven't added Café de Colombia and other interesting South American teams - the reason is simple: To get a realistic schedule for them, you'd have to add at least 10 teams (and a number of races) - otherwise, their races will be filled with European teams which, with the exception of a few races, is unrealistic.
Adding them without giving them races to ride just means that they will ride in a bunch of other races, usually European, which is also realistic.
And adding 10 teams + their races would make the DB slower than it already is. We've decided to focus on Western Europe + USA (because this is where the majority of the active PCM.daily members are from) and having a regular sized DB where it's not impossible to finish a season. Therefore, we can't add any "exotic" teams.
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| Maximka |
Posted on 04-06-2010 16:03
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Also, I'm still thinking about making East-European add-on to V2 database. I don't think that it would be as good as it was for 2009 database, but still I am willing to make it |
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| rapace85 |
Posted on 04-06-2010 16:04
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I imagined this could the reason, but therefore I don't understand why Scott yes and Colombia not. But no matter, you're job is already perfect  |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-06-2010 23:24
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I understand the confusion. About Scott, the reason is simply that it's a Pro Continental team, making it difficult to leave it out.
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| Chemiefan |
Posted on 05-06-2010 00:26
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It isn`t so unrealistic if they drive in european races because in this season they´re invited in Presidental Tour of Turkey |
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| rapace85 |
Posted on 05-06-2010 00:42
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Chemiefan wrote:
It isn`t so unrealistic if they drive in european races because in this season they´re invited in Presidental Tour of Turkey
Yes but I can understand CrueTrue, maybe he's afraid that a team like Cafe de Colombia could be invited to a Giro or a Tour, and this wouldn't be realistic. Actually, he's right
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| Chemiefan |
Posted on 05-06-2010 02:25
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Yeah but if you see it from this point than crue had to delete teams like Fly V Australia(AUS) or Spidertech(CAN) too because they are non european teams too wich could become a wildcard for giro or tour too. |
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| skully |
Posted on 05-06-2010 04:45
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wait what teams are in the 2010 DB
if only my game worked |
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| Phippsie |
Posted on 05-06-2010 06:58
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skull: CrueTrue made a forum in PCM PROJECTS... the link is;
http://pcmdaily.c...d_id=10841
i dunno if it was in this thread but i read it last night on PCMDaily somewhere hahaha.
Oh and with the team i woud have liked to see couple more Aussie teams but that just cause im a true blood aussie XD |
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| rapace85 |
Posted on 05-06-2010 10:08
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Chemiefan wrote:
Yeah but if you see it from this point than crue had to delete teams like Fly V Australia(AUS) or Spidertech(CAN) too because they are non european teams too wich could become a wildcard for giro or tour too.
but the teams you tell already have their calendar: it's northern american one, so it's less probable to see them at big european races, i think |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 05-06-2010 10:41
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Chemiefan wrote:
Yeah but if you see it from this point than crue had to delete teams like Fly V Australia(AUS) or Spidertech(CAN) too because they are non european teams too wich could become a wildcard for giro or tour too.
Have you ever played a career with one of these teams invited to the Tour or the Giro? If you don´t like teams ,why don´t you add others with an editor?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-06-2010 10:56
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rapace85 wrote:
Chemiefan wrote:
Yeah but if you see it from this point than crue had to delete teams like Fly V Australia(AUS) or Spidertech(CAN) too because they are non european teams too wich could become a wildcard for giro or tour too.
but the teams you tell already have their calendar: it's northern american one, so it's less probable to see them at big european races, i think
Exactly. I never said anything about being worried to see them invited to the Giro/Tour/Vuelta. It's about having a realistic race calendar for the teams - which we don't for South American teams. Meaning that, if we added the teams, they would be given a bunch of European races instead.
Why not add the races and teams then, I hear you ask. As I've been mentioning a couple of times, we want a DB where it doesn't take forever to finish a season - so at one point or another, we have to set a limit. If you with a pretty much limitless DB, there's the PPDB alternative - the PCM.daily DB is focused on the 'average' member.
Concerning FlyV and Spidertech, both of them, as mentioned by someone else, are a part of the North American calendar.
Edited by CrueTrue on 05-06-2010 10:57
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| rapace85 |
Posted on 11-06-2010 17:28
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... it seems Lampre's speaking whith Kashechkin and maybe could sign him in time for the Tour. Here the link to the news http://www.ciclow...-vini.html |
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| Timber |
Posted on 13-06-2010 12:12
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Haven't seen the V2 BETA yet, but have Vinokourov's stats been updated? I mean, he's got 72 for mountains in V1, which I think should be around 75 or 76 even seeing he wasn't bad in the Giro.
Also, I think Tom Veelers from Skil Shimano is overrated. In my game he's got 81 for sprints and 80 for acceleration, way too high I think. |
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| ralpo96 |
Posted on 13-06-2010 12:26
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CrueTrue When are you gonna upload it? |
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| Bregnhoj |
Posted on 13-06-2010 13:17
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ralpo96 wrote:
CrueTrue When are you gonna upload it?
Yeah, Crue - When? When? 
Edited by Bregnhoj on 13-06-2010 13:18
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| jumbobogen |
Posted on 13-06-2010 13:40
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Yea crue i ask also When? When?
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| lukaswa |
Posted on 13-06-2010 14:18
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update update update update update |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-06-2010 14:50
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Well, I changed my plans for today, meaning that I'm now visiting my parents this evening . It will be difficult to get it ready for today, but I'll try. It's more likely, though, that it's released a day later than scheduled, meaning tomorrow.
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