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Ste117
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superider2010 wrote:
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I struggle to connect to game, does anyone know how to open the ports?

Thanks Smile


cheater you had gold riders,if i remember


I have yeh,I put £20 into it to start me off and have a half decent team, its not cheating, its what most people are doing so I am too.
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Well just had a pretty fun first game of Armada, 250k flat, Sutton my team leader (only silver rider I have). All together most of the race was a 21 man breakaway group, myself and another team basically doing all the work for the P to catch them. Finally did with about 20k to go, though other attacks came at that point, got Sutton behind one of them and sprint past a few others to finish 4th. (1st against the other users). One of my riders abandoned, 2 more came in 10 minutes behind the P after they dropped from exhaustion of chasing break.

Overall it actually felt like a solid game experience, sprint trains never really got formed, think every other team in the P was like mine, didn't have any riders left around the 15k left mark. (I litterally only had Sutton with any yellow or green bar left...he was in great shape though after being protected the whole race.)
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Ste117 wrote:
superider2010 wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
I struggle to connect to game, does anyone know how to open the ports?

Thanks Smile


cheater you had gold riders,if i remember


I have yeh,I put £20 into it to start me off and have a half decent team, its not cheating, its what most people are doing so I am too.


Of course it's not cheating. Some people will want to spend some money and others won't... doesn't make anyone a cheater.
 
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I was wondering about this too.

I bought myself the big pack of cyans for 14 euro..
So now i have 5 gold riders, and an overall good team which I enjoy to play with, but allmost every stage I play, people comment on my riders, and it seems people dont like that some buy coins.

I thought most would buy some coins to secure a half decent team, but it seems most doesnt.. If i knew, i would rather go the same way most other does, and build up the team the way others are..

What do you guys do? buy coins or no?
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got my gold pack

Apollo and Devolder not badSmile
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In each of the first two games I played, I got destroyed by 2 or 3 teams with gold riders. Nibali, Evans, Sanchez, Breschel, Flecha and a few others. So I spent £10 on cyans.

Got lucky, ended up with 86 mountain contandor and 83 cobble boonen (with equipment). In the next 6 races I did, I only saw 1 other team with gold riders like mine. Really annoyed me, takes out the fun without good competition, and I think most others in the race didn't like 80s against 70s and 60s judging by there comments.

To me its seems like Cyanide are trying to match up a team with good riders against a load of bad ones to rake in the money. Well thats just my experience xD
Edited by NeilJ on 24-06-2012 13:10
 
dren
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i played a lot for buy a gold pack with 5000 coins, but this is really unfair... most of free games have not such a big advantage for pay money, in fifa ultimate team the advantage of pay extra money is nowhere near as big as this. they forgot that this is not a free game, they could get some advantage but make this a money paid battle its ridiculous... at least they could have put a limit of gold packs per day, because buy 30 gold packs the first 3 days its ridiculous. and probably will be more difference because the renewal of contracts.


the people that not pay will be forced to stop playing this because cant do nothing against cancellara,contador,gilbert... so in the end will be worse for everybody.



for have a decent chance to get ronaldo/messi in Fifa Ultimate Team you need to spend really big amount, and you can buy a gold pack with 10-13 matches played (about 15min each match). also there are overpowered low rated players (pace players) that you can buy cheap for have a decent team, and if you are much better than one that paid 1000€ you will win anyway. but here if somebody have contador there is nothing to do. Also there is trade in FUT, which it helps to make coins and also helps it to be more balanced.
 
Jeremy
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Snuble wrote:
I was wondering about this too.

I bought myself the big pack of cyans for 14 euro..
So now i have 5 gold riders, and an overall good team which I enjoy to play with, but allmost every stage I play, people comment on my riders, and it seems people dont like that some buy coins.

I thought most would buy some coins to secure a half decent team, but it seems most doesnt.. If i knew, i would rather go the same way most other does, and build up the team the way others are..

What do you guys do? buy coins or no?


I probably won't buy anhy packs. I think they are expensive, compared for exmple with Fifa UT, where you can buy packs for 1 euro.
Also, I hope that by the time I get the game, Cyanide will restrict the type of riders you use so I will only face bronze riders in the beggining (this was mentioned in the Open Bar and apparently wasn't implemented.
 
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Jeremy wrote:
Snuble wrote:
I was wondering about this too.

I bought myself the big pack of cyans for 14 euro..
So now i have 5 gold riders, and an overall good team which I enjoy to play with, but allmost every stage I play, people comment on my riders, and it seems people dont like that some buy coins.

I thought most would buy some coins to secure a half decent team, but it seems most doesnt.. If i knew, i would rather go the same way most other does, and build up the team the way others are..

What do you guys do? buy coins or no?


I probably won't buy anhy packs. I think they are expensive, compared for exmple with Fifa UT, where you can buy packs for 1 euro.
Also, I hope that by the time I get the game, Cyanide will restrict the type of riders you use so I will only face bronze riders in the beggining (this was mentioned in the Open Bar and apparently wasn't implemented.


Actually there is something like ranks in the ranking system. At the moment everyone is rank 0 I think but probably the players with gold packs will soon be rank 1 or higher. Then there might be the possibility that they can no longer play against lower ranks.
At least I hope so as it would be more fun then.
 
Benjii
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Posted on 24-06-2012 15:25
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You know what I find hilarious?

I won't be playing every hour of the day 24/7, therefore I have chosen to get gold riders so when I eventually play online, I actually have a chance of winning a stage. Though, that doesn't come without a storm of pre-teen frustations as a thunder cloud strikes you with golden slang expresssions like 'noob', 'lol' and 'omg'. I got told today by player, he called himself World Champion in PCM11 (he was very proud of it) - meaning you probably know the guy..? -, that I wasn't playing the game as I should. That I was a 'disrespected player' in the community of PCM.. Auch! - talk about a bad place to be! Being 'bad standing' amongst PCM-players! I better hide my IP-address, book airplane tickets and disappear for a while...

I got told that having bought a good team isn't fun - and obviously, he's right - he's knows what I find funny and how I would like to play my game that I've bought for my own money. I'm sure that 1 hour of playing in x1, watching riders go round and round and eventually ending up as 10th is absolutely thrilling.

Actually, though, don't quite think so.

I guess i'm a 'noob' then.

Bye.
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Jeremy
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Posted on 24-06-2012 18:19
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roturn wrote:
Jeremy wrote:
Snuble wrote:
I was wondering about this too.

I bought myself the big pack of cyans for 14 euro..
So now i have 5 gold riders, and an overall good team which I enjoy to play with, but allmost every stage I play, people comment on my riders, and it seems people dont like that some buy coins.

I thought most would buy some coins to secure a half decent team, but it seems most doesnt.. If i knew, i would rather go the same way most other does, and build up the team the way others are..

What do you guys do? buy coins or no?


I probably won't buy anhy packs. I think they are expensive, compared for exmple with Fifa UT, where you can buy packs for 1 euro.
Also, I hope that by the time I get the game, Cyanide will restrict the type of riders you use so I will only face bronze riders in the beggining (this was mentioned in the Open Bar and apparently wasn't implemented.


Actually there is something like ranks in the ranking system. At the moment everyone is rank 0 I think but probably the players with gold packs will soon be rank 1 or higher. Then there might be the possibility that they can no longer play against lower ranks.
At least I hope so as it would be more fun then.


In my opinion, you should have race where you could only use a bronze team and races where you could use players up to silver and open races. That gives you a motivation to have bronze, silver and gold riders. FIFA UT does this and I think it's a great system
 
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wow just played a extraordinary race on armada mode.

I won, got 3rd and another 2 riders in the top 10 against fairly strong human teams. on the first cat 1 climb, I put at least 5 domestiques on the front of the peleton to set a pace at 78, yet they got a gap. So with this gap I decided to bridge the gap with my main leader because no one was chasing my riders down. On the final climb I had my leader with one other guy and 4 of my domestiques.
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Benjii wrote:
You know what I find hilarious?

I won't be playing every hour of the day 24/7, therefore I have chosen to get gold riders so when I eventually play online, I actually have a chance of winning a stage. Though, that doesn't come without a storm of pre-teen frustations as a thunder cloud strikes you with golden slang expresssions like 'noob', 'lol' and 'omg'. I got told today by player, he called himself World Champion in PCM11 (he was very proud of it) - meaning you probably know the guy..? -, that I wasn't playing the game as I should. That I was a 'disrespected player' in the community of PCM.. Auch! - talk about a bad place to be! Being 'bad standing' amongst PCM-players! I better hide my IP-address, book airplane tickets and disappear for a while...

I got told that having bought a good team isn't fun - and obviously, he's right - he's knows what I find funny and how I would like to play my game that I've bought for my own money. I'm sure that 1 hour of playing in x1, watching riders go round and round and eventually ending up as 10th is absolutely thrilling.

Actually, though, don't quite think so.

I guess i'm a 'noob' then.

Bye.


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baseballlover312 wrote:
Benjii wrote:
You know what I find hilarious?

I won't be playing every hour of the day 24/7, therefore I have chosen to get gold riders so when I eventually play online, I actually have a chance of winning a stage. Though, that doesn't come without a storm of pre-teen frustations as a thunder cloud strikes you with golden slang expresssions like 'noob', 'lol' and 'omg'. I got told today by player, he called himself World Champion in PCM11 (he was very proud of it) - meaning you probably know the guy..? -, that I wasn't playing the game as I should. That I was a 'disrespected player' in the community of PCM.. Auch! - talk about a bad place to be! Being 'bad standing' amongst PCM-players! I better hide my IP-address, book airplane tickets and disappear for a while...

I got told that having bought a good team isn't fun - and obviously, he's right - he's knows what I find funny and how I would like to play my game that I've bought for my own money. I'm sure that 1 hour of playing in x1, watching riders go round and round and eventually ending up as 10th is absolutely thrilling.

Actually, though, don't quite think so.

I guess i'm a 'noob' then.

Bye.


No need for sarcasm. Everything they said is true.


You're serious ? Explain why it's true ?

Those guys were right dicks there. If you don't play the game and you want to enjoy it - buy cards for money. Its' your own choice. Those other guys shouldn't care, it's not their business what he did.

They should complain to Cyanide for creating shit match making system so it matches players with gold Vs bronze riders Wink
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Ste117
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Alakagom wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Benjii wrote:
You know what I find hilarious?

I won't be playing every hour of the day 24/7, therefore I have chosen to get gold riders so when I eventually play online, I actually have a chance of winning a stage. Though, that doesn't come without a storm of pre-teen frustations as a thunder cloud strikes you with golden slang expresssions like 'noob', 'lol' and 'omg'. I got told today by player, he called himself World Champion in PCM11 (he was very proud of it) - meaning you probably know the guy..? -, that I wasn't playing the game as I should. That I was a 'disrespected player' in the community of PCM.. Auch! - talk about a bad place to be! Being 'bad standing' amongst PCM-players! I better hide my IP-address, book airplane tickets and disappear for a while...

I got told that having bought a good team isn't fun - and obviously, he's right - he's knows what I find funny and how I would like to play my game that I've bought for my own money. I'm sure that 1 hour of playing in x1, watching riders go round and round and eventually ending up as 10th is absolutely thrilling.

Actually, though, don't quite think so.

I guess i'm a 'noob' then.

Bye.


No need for sarcasm. Everything they said is true.


You're serious ? Explain why it's true ?

Those guys were right dicks there. If you don't play the game and you want to enjoy it - buy cards for money. Its' your own choice. Those other guys shouldn't care, it's not their business what he did.

They should complain to Cyanide for creating shit match making system so it matches players with gold Vs bronze riders Wink


I have to agree again, some people work or have college/ school ad are unable to play this very often to build a good team. I work 9 hours a day and weekends sometimes. I have a spare £20 to put into this to enjoy the game. It's not a crime and no one should feel ashamed or slightly intimidated for buying cyans. We are a community around this game and should respect each others actions and ways of playing the game. We may not agree with it but it doesn't mean they are noobs or a cheater or anything along those lines.
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First at all, im not criticizing to the people that buys cyans. just expresing my point of view of why the advantage of buy packs is too much for be a not free game, cyanide/focus fault in my view.

it shouldnt be that big problem people buying cyans for the rest of the players that also paid for the game, but cyanide make it terrible unbalanced, you guys are talking as if buy cyans for compensate the lack of hours of playing, but for the moment its not compensating, its just destroying to the guys that not buy.

there are some reasons:

1. there should be a gold pack limit per day (i think one per day) to make it much more balanced races the first days, more balanced.. better for everybody, there should be not that amazing teams the first days.

2. the chances of get contador,cancellara looks too big. maybe its the same the chance to get contador than any other gold? i dont know but i expected that near nobody had them in the first days. but i was wrong

3. Its not true that FUT prices are good... the prices are much bigger than here in perspective, it would make a lot more difference spend here 100€ than in FUT, in FUT you can pay 100€ and the best you can buy are jumbo gold packs (625k valued of packs, very likely to be much less in market prices after selling the things of packs). xbox average price of the normal version of ronaldo its 400k (and it was higher at the beggining)... he's good but there are a lot of players that cost more. but here in PCM if you pay a good quantity you get the best riders easily. and its more difficult to get coins here than in FUT in other ways.

4. Also the lack of market its not good, because u cant get decent gold players cheap
Edited by dren on 24-06-2012 21:34
 
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I was thinking of a solution..

buying cards should be removed.

the coins you earn for racing, should decrease pr race pr day.

Lets say full coins on first race each day. Second race gives a little less, same goes for 3rd, 4th and 5th.

In the end, you only get better rankingpoints, no coins., untill next day when you will get full coins again..

this will give the players who are active more coins, but not make such a big difference between them and those who dont play that often.
Edited by Snuble on 24-06-2012 21:01
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Snuble wrote:
I was thinking of a solution..

buying cards should be removed.

Then the whole game would be almost senseless in Cyanide's view Pfft
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They are really earning money on Armada (maybe that will make PCM13 ways better than this version?)!
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Chriskp10 wrote:
They are really earning money on Armada (maybe that will make PCM13 ways better than this version?)!


thats trueSmile
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