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| danlima63 |
Posted on 10-05-2012 00:45
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Great result for us....3rd in GC!.. I was completely wrong 5 days ago:
danlima63 wrote:
GC is over for us... Let's focus now on another stage win...
Bongiorno rested today to have good sprints in the next stages!!!
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Of course it could have been even better on GC (Bongiorno should bring M Chacon to a better place in the last stage to get the some time bonuses , Chacon could have sprinted in stage 8 and get some bonuses as well... and so on)... but this stage race was our best result by far!!!! Very happy! 
I was very upset with M Chacon during this season, since he has a high salary and was not showing good results at all... but this is because Bongiorno was doing all the sprints...
After Chacon became our leader in this race, he showed that he can sprint as well.. (I thought during season scheduling that putting Bongiorno and Chacon together, one would work for the other... but I was wrong)
Just a question... I was the only one that noticed that the last stage finished before the real finish line ?!?!?!?! Bongiorno should be stage winner !!! kkkk
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| CountArach |
Posted on 10-05-2012 00:50
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What an amazing battle for the point jersey here! Congrats to Alstorm, Haddou earned it.
Also nice reporting mb. You kept me interested in a pan-flat 11 stage race.
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| Deda |
Posted on 10-05-2012 00:58
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So close, no matter how far...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 10-05-2012 06:06
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Luck saved our tour at least a bit in the last stage. I feel sorry for the riders droped from top 10 overall, but Grychenko moved in there thanks to that, and team competition is a nice bonus (it is mentioned in the report that we have won it, but the results are different, i am not sure how it is calculated right).
Congrats to the succesful teams and especially to Haddou, he is a real sprint star for Alstrom
Looking forward to the more hilly terrain now...
Edit:Btw. we failed our win goal, but that was obvius after the first hilly stage, where the major gaps were not created and Grychenko did not mind to attack.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 10-05-2012 06:07
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 10-05-2012 06:51
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danlima63 wrote:
Great result for us....3rd in GC!.. I was completely wrong 5 days ago:
danlima63 wrote:
GC is over for us... Let's focus now on another stage win...
Bongiorno rested today to have good sprints in the next stages!!!
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Team Petrobras
Of course it could have been even better on GC (Bongiorno should bring M Chacon to a better place in the last stage to get the some time bonuses , Chacon could have sprinted in stage 8 and get some bonuses as well... and so on)... but this stage race was our best result by far!!!! Very happy!
I was very upset with M Chacon during this season, since he has a high salary and was not showing good results at all... but this is because Bongiorno was doing all the sprints...
After Chacon became our leader in this race, he showed that he can sprint as well.. (I thought during season scheduling that putting Bongiorno and Chacon together, one would work for the other... but I was wrong)
Just a question... I was the only one that noticed that the last stage finished before the real finish line ?!?!?!?! Bongiorno should be stage winner !!! kkkk
Yeah, it's irritating, I didn't realise until they all stopped sprinting. I'm not sure if you would have won in another 100m, but it would have been close.
Avin, sorry the report should have stated that Gazprom won the team competition, that was a typo by me.
Edited by mb2612 on 10-05-2012 06:53
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| jph27 |
Posted on 10-05-2012 07:01
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 Whole team losing three minutes cost us a Top 10 on GC. 
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| kopfan |
Posted on 10-05-2012 12:29
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Bad luck on Gallagher but Paidi O'Brien still sneaks us a top 10 GC... nice tour.... great work mb2612 
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| yannicwkp |
Posted on 10-05-2012 13:43
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We won GC great result for the team. |
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| Stevenag |
Posted on 10-05-2012 16:30
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Annoying that Korko flops in the final stage. He gives it to Haddou. Well, guess i have to say congratulations wiithout really meaning it. |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 12-05-2012 05:36
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Rankings update
With 11 stages and the majority of them being flat the sprinters had a real battleground in Morocco. For once the breakaways were controlled in the main leading to CDiv2 leader  Saïd Haddou taking a large points haul and moving to the top of the standings.
Hill allergic  Daniel Thorsen moves to third showing that he can be useful on the road. Teammate Angel Vicioso moved up to 11th.
It was also a pretty good race for Adecco with the likes of  Andreas Dietziker and Tigran Korkotyan moving into the top twenty. Race winner  Lukasz Bodnar is just outside the top twenty.
| First name | Surname | Team | Points | | 1 | Saïd | Haddou | Alstorm - Bic | 368 | | 2 | Maxim | Burlutsky | Team Armavia | 227 | | 3 | Daniel | Thorsen | Samsung-Mol | 195 | | 4 | Fabio | Ciccarese | Team Cativen | 192 | | 5 | Ricardo | Serrano | Pivovarna LaÅ¡ko | 182 | | 6 | Robby | Meul | Samsung-Mol | 176 | | 7 | Dries | Van der Ginst | Het Nieuwsblad | 173 | | 8 | Kristjan | Fajt | Pivovarna LaÅ¡ko | 169 | | 9 | Antonio | Bucciero | Team Metinvest - Slovnaft | 167 | | 10 | Arthur | Garcia Rincon | Team Cativen | 165 | | 11 | Angel | Vicioso | Samsung-Mol | 161 | | 12 | Dieter | Cappelle | Het Nieuwsblad | 153 | | 13 | Gilberto | Sampaio | Het Nieuwsblad | 152 | | 14 | Koen | Barbé | Het Nieuwsblad | 146 | | 15 | Jens | Renders | Free agent (formerly Tyskie) | 145 | | 16 | Aleksandr | Bespalov | Gazprom-Rosbank | 140 | | 17 | Tigran | Korkotyan | Team Adecco | 140 | | 18 | Andreas | Dietziker | Team Adecco | 139 | | 19 | Thomas | Murray | Free agent (formerly Vodafone) | 139 | | 20 | Anthony | Colby | American Express | 135 | | 21 | Lukasz | Bodnar | Team Finnair-Nordea | 134 | | 22 | Matthew | Crane | American Express | 134 | | 23 | Bart | Veyt | American Express | 131 | | 24 | Julian David | Muñoz Giraldo | Free agent (formerly Tyskie) | 126 | | 25 | Jake | Sutherland | Free agent (formerly Team EFTel) | 126 | | 26 | Rubén DarÃo | Laverde Velez | Het Nieuwsblad | 125 | | 27 | Vincent | Jérôme | Team Cativen | 123 | | 28 | Luis Felipe | Laverde Jimenez | Team Cativen | 123 | | 29 | Bart | Wellens | Gazprom-Rosbank | 119 | | 30 | Dennis | Van Niekerk | Team Metinvest - Slovnaft | 118 | | 31 | Isidro | Nozal | Team UPC | 117 | | 32 | Sergei | Klimov | Gazprom-Rosbank | 113 | | 33 | Carlos Alberto | Ospina | American Express | 113 | | 34 | Matic | Strgar | Pivovarna LaÅ¡ko | 112 | | 35 | Goran | Smelcerovic | Team Serbian Telecom | 108 | | 36 | Mike | Friedman | Ekspla-Maxima | 107 | | 37 | Maxim | Gourov | Free agent (formerly Team ENRC) | 106 | | 38 | Kimmo | Kananen | Team Finnair-Nordea | 106 | | 39 | Krzysztof | Szczawinski | Free agent (formerly Tyskie) | 106 | | 40 | Joris | Wagemans | Free agent (formerly Delhaize) | 103 | | 41 | Charles | Wegelius | Team Dyson | 103 | | 42 | Benoît | Daeninck | Ekspla-Maxima | 101 | | 43 | Wilson | Rincón | Team Cativen | 101 | | 44 | Aleksandr | Arekejev | Team Serbian Telecom | 99 | | 45 | Arne | Hassink | Team UPC | 98 | | 46 | Azizulhasni | Awang | Samsung-Mol | 97 | | 47 | Peter | Hatton | Free agent (formerly Team EFTel) | 97 | | 48 | Adonis | Cardoso Española | American Express | 96 | | 49 | Juri | Krivtsov | Team Metinvest - Slovnaft | 96 | | 50 | Ivan | Stevic | Team Serbian Telecom | 96 |
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Points were spread around a bit, though four teams scored over 150 points making it a strong race for them. Sprinter squads Alstorm, Samsung Mol and Adecco all did well as did  Cativen.
Spare a thought for  Eurovision,  Pivovarna Lasko and  Dyson who all scored less than 30 points here!
| Previous | Team | New Total | | 1 | 1 | Het Nieuwsblad Cycling Team | 1218 | | 2 | 2 | Team Cativen | 940 | | 3 | 3 | Alstom - Bic Pro Cycling | 906 | | 4 | 6 | Samsung-Mol Cycling Team | 850 | | 5 | 4 | American Express | 822 | | 6 | 5 | Pivovarna Laško Cycling Team | 726 | | 7 | 7 | Team UPC | 726 | | 8 | 11 | Team Adecco | 666 | | 9 | 8 | Team Metinvest - Slovnaft | 658 | | 10 | 10 | Gazprom-Rosbank | 617 | | 11 | 9 | Team Serbian Telecom | 607 | | 12 | 12 | Ekspla-Maxima Cycling Team | 529 | | 13 | 16 | Team Finnair-Nordea | 430 | | 14 | 13 | Team Dyson | 415 | | 15 | 15 | Team Petrobras - Banco do Brasil | 413 | | 15 | 14 | Eurovision Cycling Team | 387 | | 17 | 17 | Team Kingspan Continental | 369 | | 18 | 18 | Team Armavia | 329 |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 12-05-2012 08:16
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BAck to TOP5, yeahhh But as i see will be hard to reach the TOP3 places, but we will do as much as we can. Come on guys |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 12-05-2012 08:37
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Haddou should have the individual ranking pretty much wrapped up, as he pretty much deserves.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 12-05-2012 09:54
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I expected a scarce amount of point here, sending a weakish team basically no support to Lobato and Gérard being clearly one level below Haddou, Thorsen et al, but that crash... :/
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 12-05-2012 10:58
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Haddou on his own now has more points then a whole team Hopefully we can hang on to a top 3 finshes this season nw and i will be happy!
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 12-05-2012 13:12
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Haddou is the real star of the division
Expected slide for Metinvest, only goal now is to finish the season in top 10. This will be hard with several teams close behind. I hope for another surprise from Van Niekerk and need some kind of swan song from Grychenko.
Congrats to Alstorm, Samsung Mol, Adecco and Cativen for great point haul.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 12-05-2012 13:12
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 12-05-2012 13:35
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Meh, looking at Haddou sucess shows our failure in the transfers window.... Still we got a lot of nice points here and looking good in the rankings.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 12-05-2012 13:47
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Alakagom wrote:
Meh, looking at Haddou sucess shows our failure in the transfers window.... Still we got a lot of nice points here and looking good in the rankings.
How did you fail in the transfer window? You are leading the rankings by a huge margin.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 12-05-2012 13:51
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CountArach wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Meh, looking at Haddou sucess shows our failure in the transfers window.... Still we got a lot of nice points here and looking good in the rankings.
How did you fail in the transfer window? You are leading the rankings by a huge margin.
And you were on holiday and still Het is pawning the rest
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 12-05-2012 14:10
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grrr slipping close to the bottom of the rankings, gonna have to get busy and bring in some quality riders to improve the squad next season
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 12-05-2012 14:10
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Well, lets analyse this race...
We were not overly competetive (as usual) but klimov chernetsky and valinin showed some good results... Good, well there are 3 or 4 riders are can keep for next season in my team...
Klimovs 7th in GC is probably a bit weak, considering that we had masciarelli and him... Especially Masciarelli is really disappointing me this season. And its not an understatement that even SAMAI SAMAI was a better signing than masciarelli, since he at least scored points for our team at the early stages of the season...
To the team Classification: Valinin, Chernetsky and Klimov are the main contributers again. Well done. Masciarelli again barel visible didnt contribute much... well lets say that i leave Morocco with a laughing and a crying eye...
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