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Tour de Pologne 2012 - 10th - 16th July
Alakagom
Posted on 16-07-2012 17:47
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baseballlover312 wrote:
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Was that a WT race? Shock

Look at the results! I guess that's what happens when the TDF is on.


Don't look at results or startlist if you didn't watch the race Wink And to be honest, the podium is very impressive here. 3 very exciting and future talents.

Whole week racing has been superb here. This was quite amazing race this year with no clear favourite ! One of the best stage races this year imo in terms of excitement and attacks.

I did. the race was awesome, but that doesn't make it WT.


What does then ?

Great field ? Becasue I've seen lots of them this year and very few stage races with top field delivered much excitement.

And anyway this field was rich in talent, and there were few stars like Boonen or Hushvod, but both abandoned.
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TdP has the profile to it's advantage. In Poland there are no long slopes where everyone is watching each other - well, except for one or two maybe but they will never be a cycling venue due to poor tarmac and environmental reasons. Instead we get a lot of short but very sharp climbs - something like an Ardennes classic on sterides. And it makes people want to attack - for there are a lot of opportunities and in the end even few seconds can make a difference. Last year for example when Sagan had to fight on sprints toget the win after the last stage,
 
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Few points for next year's race.

One day longer and between 27 July to 3 August.

It begins in Italy, more specifically Trentino Wink
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Alakagom wrote:
It begins in Italy, more specifically Trentino Wink


Da fuck?
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How do they do that? From Italy to Poland in 8 days? What, 3 stages in Italy then rest day, then 3 stages in Poland?
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Alakagom wrote:
Few points for next year's race.

One day longer and between 27 July do 3 August.

It begins in Italy, more specifically Trentino Wink


I.....what?
"Hopefully in 2 years time I might win the Time Trial and be a credible Time Trial winner because I haven't beaten someone by 2 minutes."
- Bradley Wiggins a few years ago

"It's the Time Trial. The race against the truth!" - Phil Liggett, 2003 Vuelta
 
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Okay, I new this would get you Pfft

There's few rumours but it should be something like this :

Saturday and Sunday two stages in Italy, Trentino. Tough, mountain stages. Rumoured MTF to be Madonna di Campiglio, but it's not confirmed yet.

Monday - Rest Day and transfer to Poland

Rest 5 stages in Poland - route not know yet
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Additionally, most likely will be individual time trial.
Edited by pylarz on 16-07-2012 20:38
 
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Alakagom wrote:
Okay, I new this would get you Pfft

There's few rumours but it should be something like this :

Saturday and Sunday two stages in Italy, Trentino. Tough, mountain stages. Rumoured MTF to be Madonna di Campiglio, but it's not confirmed yet.

Monday - Rest Day and transfer to Poland

Rest 5 stages in Poland - route not know yet

rest day ina week long tour? lol wut?
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That's so... odd. If they want bigger mountains they could enter the Czech Republik or Slovakia. Or go to the Morskie Oko (there could be environmental issues here though).

Or climb Sniezka. Pfft
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Okay, I new this would get you Pfft

There's few rumours but it should be something like this :

Saturday and Sunday two stages in Italy, Trentino. Tough, mountain stages. Rumoured MTF to be Madonna di Campiglio, but it's not confirmed yet.

Monday - Rest Day and transfer to Poland

Rest 5 stages in Poland - route not know yet

rest day ina week long tour? lol wut?


Well obviously they have to transfer from Italy to Poland and that will take some time too do...

However silly this sounds - it will get the race more prestige, it's on better date now and will progress the race in better direction.
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That's so... odd. If they want bigger mountains they could enter the Czech Republik or Slovakia. Or go to the Morskie Oko (there could be environmental issues here though).

Or climb Sniezka. Pfft


Hmm, indeed. But I guess more money for the race and more prestige as well Wink

Morskie Oko - would be freaking epic ! But it's not going to happen because as you said of environmental issues and Poland strict rule on that. Now, even no bikes are allowed there after few accidents with tourists few years ago ...

Sniezka ? Pfft Epic again, but well it's only suited for mountain bikes Wink
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Alakagom wrote:
kumazan wrote:
That's so... odd. If they want bigger mountains they could enter the Czech Republik or Slovakia. Or go to the Morskie Oko (there could be environmental issues here though).

Or climb Sniezka. Pfft


Hmm, indeed. But I guess more money for the race and more prestige as well Wink

Morskie Oko - would be freaking epic ! But it's not going to happen because as you said of environmental issues and Poland strict rule on that. Now, even no bikes are allowed there after few accidents with tourists few years ago ...

Sniezka ? Pfft Epic again, but well it's only suited for mountain bikes Wink


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Yeah Sniezka was a joke obviously. It'd be freaking epic though. Pfft It's really too bad about the Morskie Oko, it'd be an stunning MTF (it's among my list of 'to go' places next year when I'll be in Poland), but preserve those places it's far more important than a bike race.

I still find a bit odd that the Trentino region is paying for a start there. Good for the race I guess.

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Lang had also idea of the finish line on Gubalowka, but there is not enough space for balloons Wink
 
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kumazan wrote:
That's so... odd. If they want bigger mountains they could enter the Czech Republik or Slovakia. Or go to the Morskie Oko (there could be environmental issues here though).

Or climb Sniezka. Pfft

Alakagom already said everything bout Morskie Oko and Sniezka. But Przelecz Karkonoska from Czech side? Why not. Altough I would rather have it from Polish side as this is the sharpest climb we have:

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Combine that with few rouns onto Karpacz (this year's first stage)...

EDIT - Trentin is promoting heavily in Poland as a destination - everyone wins on this decision. And I hope it will come out on the good side. But I'm afraid the race may be decided to early because of that.
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That would be a really hard climb.
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What's more Lang said that next editions also can be started outside the Polish. He said he has offers from different countries including France.
 
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I went searching for climbs profile from neighbour countrys of Poland and I think this one is really insteresting:

The Passo Vrsic in Slovenia.

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8.2% over 9.4 km with a maximum percentage of 12%. A brutal climb.
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Well Slovenia is as much of a neighbour to Poland as Italy is. Pfft
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