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Cycling at London 2012 Olympic Games
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| johannes-w |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:21
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sam1196 wrote:
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You guys speak like you all know him personally and like it's a convict who commited several murders an all sort of things like that...
Whatever you think about him, he has won.
And untill it's there black on white that he has doped he's the winner.
I really can't stand this type of people who can't stand him and act like he's the worst form of a human being that there will ever be.
I hate it, I'm out. Have fun guys. Let's all pretend nothing has ever come up about his personality and praise his greatness, will we ?
All right he HAS doped. Does it mean he always lies, he always buys races from other people? No, if it was like that why isn't he suspended?
@roturn. I know, and it's totally your choice to be for whoever you want to be  But some people here are really pretending to be psycologists who now him personally and studied him for years. That is something i can't stand.
He didn't "just" dope, he also bought a victory from Kolobnev and said he ll end his carrer to not get a ban and then all of a sudden was back to racing. also he never had any kind of regret after what he did, so you cant say we know nothing about him |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:22
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I won't quote because I'm tired of these pyramids, but Wiggo's first language is English so it can't be him.
Rest in Peace Wouter Weylandt and Xavi Tondo 
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Posted on 28-07-2012 16:23
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Also I thought it was particularly nice to see so many riders congratulating Vino on the line... and the crowd to cheer Fabian home too. The Olympics is always special. 
People are angry that 'Rider X' won a cycling race. Lol. |
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:23
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johannes-w wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
You guys speak like you all know him personally and like it's a convict who commited several murders an all sort of things like that...
Whatever you think about him, he has won.
And untill it's there black on white that he has doped he's the winner.
I really can't stand this type of people who can't stand him and act like he's the worst form of a human being that there will ever be.
I hate it, I'm out. Have fun guys. Let's all pretend nothing has ever come up about his personality and praise his greatness, will we ?
All right he HAS doped. Does it mean he always lies, he always buys races from other people? No, if it was like that why isn't he suspended?
@roturn. I know, and it's totally your choice to be for whoever you want to be  But some people here are really pretending to be psycologists who now him personally and studied him for years. That is something i can't stand.
He didn't "just" dope, he also bought a victory from Kolobnev and said he ll end his carrer to not get a ban and then all of a sudden was back to racing. also he never had any kind of regret after what he did, so you cant say we know nothing about him
It's normal yu hate people when you only point out the negative facts. |
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| johannes-w |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:25
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sam1196 wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
You guys speak like you all know him personally and like it's a convict who commited several murders an all sort of things like that...
Whatever you think about him, he has won.
And untill it's there black on white that he has doped he's the winner.
I really can't stand this type of people who can't stand him and act like he's the worst form of a human being that there will ever be.
I hate it, I'm out. Have fun guys. Let's all pretend nothing has ever come up about his personality and praise his greatness, will we ?
All right he HAS doped. Does it mean he always lies, he always buys races from other people? No, if it was like that why isn't he suspended?
@roturn. I know, and it's totally your choice to be for whoever you want to be  But some people here are really pretending to be psycologists who now him personally and studied him for years. That is something i can't stand.
He didn't "just" dope, he also bought a victory from Kolobnev and said he ll end his carrer to not get a ban and then all of a sudden was back to racing. also he never had any kind of regret after what he did, so you cant say we know nothing about him
It's normal yu hate people when you only point out the negative facts.
sorry I have no arguments against that anymore |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:26
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sam1196 wrote:
It's normal yu hate people when you only point out the negative facts.
Hating is a big word, it's just pro cycling, I couldn't care much less.
What if facts were balanced, and it appeared that, despite a couple of good aspects, Vino is really a bad character.
Would it be ok (in your eyes) to dislike him then ?
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| Squire |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:26
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VINO! 
Greatest non-Norwegian Olympic moment for me ever!
Incredible ride by Kristoff as well. Forget the sprints, he's a future classics man.
Fantastic race, compared to the expectations. I'd love to see more Vino wins, but I won't blame him if he makes this the last race of his carreer. What a way to bow out.
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:28
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johannes-w wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
You guys speak like you all know him personally and like it's a convict who commited several murders an all sort of things like that...
Whatever you think about him, he has won.
And untill it's there black on white that he has doped he's the winner.
I really can't stand this type of people who can't stand him and act like he's the worst form of a human being that there will ever be.
I hate it, I'm out. Have fun guys. Let's all pretend nothing has ever come up about his personality and praise his greatness, will we ?
All right he HAS doped. Does it mean he always lies, he always buys races from other people? No, if it was like that why isn't he suspended?
@roturn. I know, and it's totally your choice to be for whoever you want to be  But some people here are really pretending to be psycologists who now him personally and studied him for years. That is something i can't stand.
He didn't "just" dope, he also bought a victory from Kolobnev and said he ll end his carrer to not get a ban and then all of a sudden was back to racing. also he never had any kind of regret after what he did, so you cant say we know nothing about him
It's normal yu hate people when you only point out the negative facts.
 sorry I have no arguments against that anymore
Yeah right go have a good laugh at me than, that's why i'm here...
@Aquarius.
I never said you can't hate or dislike him, i just can't stand the conspiracies |
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:29
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Vino=doper and buys off rivals
vino=bad person
me=
There's a difference between an all-rounder and someone who is just equally bad at everything
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:30
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I love Vino because of his riding. Honestly, I dislike Kolobnev the most because of the money scandal. It shows he has less passion and is willing to take the money over a huge achievement in his career.
Doping, well many riders did, and still do. I cant despise him for that, although he does seem to be someone that would lie/cheat to get what he wants, and that is a negative about him imo.
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| johannes-w |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:31
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sam1196 wrote:
I never said you can't hate or dislike him, i just can't stand the conspiracies
conspiracies... This word makes it sound like the storys aren't true
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| kumazan |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:31
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LL Sánchez says that he and valverde did nothing in the last kilometres (after Castroviejo had ridden his ass off for both) because they didn't know who had to work for who.
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:32
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johannes-w wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
I never said you can't hate or dislike him, i just can't stand the conspiracies
conspiracies... This word makes it sound like the storys aren't true 
Those are true yes, but what everybody suggests now is that he again bought a victory, and in my eyes that is a conspiracy. or at least some a made up story. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:33
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So, what is more expensive to win, LBL or the Olympics?
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Posted on 28-07-2012 16:34
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Watching the race, this is my opinion.
Positives:
- Vinkourov, who was the smartest one today.
- Uran, great job, but learned a very important lesson in the last 300 metres....
- Kristoff, good sprint for the bronze
- All the countries that wanted to prevent a mass sprint, giving us an entertaining race.
- The sportmanship in the peloton, with so many riders congratulating Vino.
Negatives:
- Team GB, they learned that to control a 240km race with 5 riders is impossible.
- Germany and Australia, who helped GB to late (okay, Australia had O'Grady in the leading group).
- The broadcasting was bad. Few time gaps given, switching between cameras to often making us guess a lot who was riding where.
- All the people who immediately start shouting and disliking Vino. Im no fan of him, but I love his attacking racing and he deserved the win today, so it's unfair to keep talking about his past (oh, does this mean that Team Sky isn't doping anymore, except Uran?)
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| sam1196 |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:35
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alexkr00 wrote:
So, what is more expensive to win, LBL or the Olympics? 
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Posted on 28-07-2012 16:35
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sam1196 wrote:
johannes-w wrote:
sam1196 wrote:
I never said you can't hate or dislike him, i just can't stand the conspiracies
conspiracies... This word makes it sound like the storys aren't true 
Those are true yes, but what everybody suggests now is that he again bought a victory, and in my eyes that is a conspiracy. or at least some a made up story.
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 28-07-2012 16:36
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olympics. somebody edited wikipedia to say vino had been disqualified for drugs I can still hope
There's a difference between an all-rounder and someone who is just equally bad at everything
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Posted on 28-07-2012 16:36
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Vino is a living proof of bullshit.
Once a dooper always a doper.. and he is not the exeption to confirm te rule.
Throw those f****** out of the sport. |
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Posted on 28-07-2012 16:36
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kumazan wrote:
LL Sánchez says that he and valverde did nothing in the last kilometres (after Castroviejo had ridden his ass off for both) because they didn't know who had to work for who. 
....suddenly and a new contender emerges
If you want to say 'the things science doesn't understand...that's god's hand', then - because the list of things science can't explain and that religious people attribute to god is constantly getting smaller and smaller - you've just defined your own god as a continuously receding pocket of ignorance.
That's about the most offensive thing you could possibly say about a religion. Yet people only ever claim it about their own religion. |
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